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mark kelly and gabby giffords, his wife, they are both gun owners. kelly told me he considered joining the nra but he never got around to it. he also told me that when it comes to his testimony here, he's going to be sitting at one side of the witness table, wayne lapierre of the nra at the other. he hopes that they can have a conversation that can really start to do something. two staunch supporters of the second amendment, two very different views on guns. >> they're god-given freedoms. they belong to us. in the united states of america, as our birthright. no government gave them to us and no government can ever take them away. >> i defended the second amendment flying in combat over iraq and kuwait. you know, defending our country. gabby owns a gun, i own a gun, this really isn't only about the second amendment. >> reporter: these will be the star witnesses at congress's first hearing on guns since newtown. mark kelly, husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords who survived a gunshot through the head, six people died in the attack. the couple
mark kelly and gabby giffords, his wife, they are both gun owners. kelly told me he considered joining the nra but he never got around to it. he also told me that when it comes to his testimony here, he's going to be sitting at one side of the witness table, wayne lapierre of the nra at the other. he hopes that they can have a conversation that can really start to do something. two staunch supporters of the second amendment, two very different views on guns. >> they're god-given freedoms....
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. >> the day's other star witness, former congresswoman and shooting victim, gabby giffords left with the aid of her husband, who hardly sounded confident. you can they can get a bill passed? yet another sign the fate of gun control won't be settled at a hearing. >> nancy robinson is executive director. matt, let me start with you. pretty interesting about face by the nra and probably surprising a lot of people watching, but tell me why you don't think background checks, a universal background check is going to work? >> first of all, has there ever been a worse spokesman? seriously. i like the 98 version better. the idea it's a panecea, if you look at the three most recent high profile examples, the roar area shooter purchased guns legally. the only example where a background check might have changed things is in tucson, but we don't even know. it's a counterfactual if you couldn't have bought a gun legally, he would have found it some other way. >> first, even now, we've got limited checks. there's all these loopholes. department of justice says 1.9 million applications to buy guns w
. >> the day's other star witness, former congresswoman and shooting victim, gabby giffords left with the aid of her husband, who hardly sounded confident. you can they can get a bill passed? yet another sign the fate of gun control won't be settled at a hearing. >> nancy robinson is executive director. matt, let me start with you. pretty interesting about face by the nra and probably surprising a lot of people watching, but tell me why you don't think background checks, a universal...
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but if gabby giffords wasn't enough to change this, why would newtown be? >> well, that's the key question. and it's one to follow through. after gabby giffords' shooting two years ago, there was a bill put forward. it had 95 democratic co-sponsors and only one republican, and it effectively died on the vine. now the question is, where's the follow-through? will there be urgency? will there be bipartisan movement behind it. a poll put out by frank luntz found that 74% of nra members support a universal background check. so there may be some opportunities for common ground here. a lot of licensed gun dealers would like that loophole to be closed. but every compromise on this contentious issue is tough, erin. >> a quick follow, here, john, before we go. the vice president said that, yesterday, that president obama could use executive order to get some of these things done. does he need that to have universal background checks or to do something else that vice president biden said today they wanted to do, which was to ban those high-capacity magazines? >> repo
but if gabby giffords wasn't enough to change this, why would newtown be? >> well, that's the key question. and it's one to follow through. after gabby giffords' shooting two years ago, there was a bill put forward. it had 95 democratic co-sponsors and only one republican, and it effectively died on the vine. now the question is, where's the follow-through? will there be urgency? will there be bipartisan movement behind it. a poll put out by frank luntz found that 74% of nra members...
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giffords. >> they're going against the will of the majority of the people. >> exactly. i published an op-ed in the philadelphia inquirer a week ago and in it, i outlined three things we could do to make our streets safer and dry up illegally trafficked guns and i was braced actually for a barrage of angry e-mails from the people from the right and i got nothing but praise. >> look, i'm not -- >> people who describe themselves as -- excuse me. >> i'm not on principle -- >> thank you, thank you. from people who described themselves as right wing or gun nuts and they said they agreed with everything outlined and basically, it was threefold. background checks for all gun sales. increased accountability for gun dealers who are criminals and doing something to reduce purchasing in this country and they agreed with all three. >> so, first of all, the straw purchasing thing, this will lead to gun registration, that's the bottom line. because how do you track the guns? they have to be registered. that's really what this is about. >> register -- i mean, i don't understand. not go
giffords. >> they're going against the will of the majority of the people. >> exactly. i published an op-ed in the philadelphia inquirer a week ago and in it, i outlined three things we could do to make our streets safer and dry up illegally trafficked guns and i was braced actually for a barrage of angry e-mails from the people from the right and i got nothing but praise. >> look, i'm not -- >> people who describe themselves as -- excuse me. >> i'm not on...
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i want to stick with the moment that was so powerful on the floor when gabby giffords. you said there is preparation that takes place behind the scenes. this is something you can talk to no one else can. what does it take for her to get out there? what preparation is involved? >> for example, gabby had an opportunity to give her first speech about six weeks ago now to an organization of speech pathologists and professionals. it was a five-sentence speech. she had to memorize it. she was able to deliver it. she practiced it for me when i saw her in washington. she did a fantastic job. today you can see she knew it well enough to recite it and was also reading it for guidance. for her to get to that moment it takes a tremendous amount of rehearsal and practice. gabby has the courage. you can clearly see the resolve. i think it's really important to note. she's not just reading that statement in a rote way. you could hear the emotion and the power behind the statement she was making because she feels strongly about this. we have to make sure we deal with reducing gun viole
i want to stick with the moment that was so powerful on the floor when gabby giffords. you said there is preparation that takes place behind the scenes. this is something you can talk to no one else can. what does it take for her to get out there? what preparation is involved? >> for example, gabby had an opportunity to give her first speech about six weeks ago now to an organization of speech pathologists and professionals. it was a five-sentence speech. she had to memorize it. she was...
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it's very interesting to watch gabby giffords yesterday. her read just is inherently very emotional as she tries to really say every single word. here's a little bit of what she said to those at this hearing. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> just to hear her struggle to get the words out really i think just speaks volumes, if you will, about all that she's been through and all about this debate. and yet this hearing did not then go forward with everybody piling on and trying to work together. it became very divisive, kind of contentious. do you think gabrielle giffords can help affect policy in this manner? >> very, very desfinitely and profoundly. her statement was one of the shortest but most powerful public statements before any congressional hearing i've ever heard. it was really so direct. yes, she did struggle with those words, but there was no mistaking the passion and the depth of her commitment. and when she said be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you, she also said that chil
it's very interesting to watch gabby giffords yesterday. her read just is inherently very emotional as she tries to really say every single word. here's a little bit of what she said to those at this hearing. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> just to hear her struggle to get the words out really i think just speaks volumes, if you will, about all that she's been through and all about this debate. and yet this hearing did not then go forward...
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even more dramatic, gabby giffords labored yet passion nal plea for passion. >> speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> reporter: giffords is an advocate and so is her husband mark kelly. >> a strong supporter of the second amendment as anyone on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> reporter: at the other end of the table, the other star witness with a very different perspective. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranged criminals: none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. we'll start them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> order. >> reporter: the line to get into this
even more dramatic, gabby giffords labored yet passion nal plea for passion. >> speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> reporter: giffords is an advocate and so is her husband mark kelly. >> a strong supporter of the second amendment as anyone on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she...
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giffords, same thing happened. this time it's different. >> this time is different. you feel the momentum. we know the deadline for the task force, end of the month. you mentioned the vice president, the president both know short window. you mentioned it a lot. we'll see what happens. lonnie phillips, thank you for hopping on the phone with me. >>> just in to us at cnn, this crane, look at these pictures. a crane has collapsed in new york. we have our producer christina gannon is watching the scene right now. give me a point of reference. where are we talking about? >> brooke, i'm in long island city, literally right across the east river from manhattan. if i look across the river, i'm looking at the united nations, i can see the empire state building, the chrysler building, we're across the river from that. there is a purely residential, there is probably 10 high rye residential buildings. this building is under construction. it is just right across the street from manhattan, across the river from manhattan. >> we
giffords, same thing happened. this time it's different. >> this time is different. you feel the momentum. we know the deadline for the task force, end of the month. you mentioned the vice president, the president both know short window. you mentioned it a lot. we'll see what happens. lonnie phillips, thank you for hopping on the phone with me. >>> just in to us at cnn, this crane, look at these pictures. a crane has collapsed in new york. we have our producer christina gannon is...
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mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and used to practice at an nra range. now they are taking on the powerful gun lobby. kelly tells cnn they support extensive gun control, including restricting high-capacity weapons, like the one used by giffords' shooter. >> he was taken down after unloading ten rounds in a magazine, then there would certainly be other people that didn't -- that died that day that would be alive today. >> reporter: as the nra's executive director, wayne lapierre is the defender of gun rights. his prepared testimony released by the nra sounds familiar warnings. law-eye biding gun owners will not take responsibility for criminals nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own. he will have avid defenders on the committee holding the hearing, like orrin hatch. >> well, after years of being pushed around, it's tough for them not to be combative. wayne lapierre is one of the nicest, kindest people you'll ever meet but he really does believe in
mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords who was shot in the head, six people died in the attack. the couple are gun owners themselves and used to practice at an nra range. now they are taking on the powerful gun lobby. kelly tells cnn they support extensive gun control, including restricting high-capacity weapons, like the one used by giffords' shooter. >> he was taken down after unloading ten rounds in a magazine, then there would certainly be other people that didn't -- that died that...
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>> i actually do think, because of the new super pack that gabby giffords and her husband and of course they are gun owners, they've been nra members, we have a new political reality out there, and i think that there is a mobilization of americans like we've never seen before and that's going to include the sportsman and it's going to include the gun owners that are saying we can do better to protect our communities and to protect the second amendment. so i think politically, we're going to see some of those members and areas that have been with the nra saying, taking another look and saying, am i going to be hearing from people in my community, from my voters that are saying, no, we have to make some sensible changes now. i think that can happen. >> congresswoman january schakowsky, democrat from illinois, appreciate your time. sorry about the audio problems. >> thank you. >>> should hourly employees get paid sick leave? would it make you and the economy healthier? we'll talk about the debate going on in the middle of the flu outbreak, that's coming up next. meet the five-passenger for
>> i actually do think, because of the new super pack that gabby giffords and her husband and of course they are gun owners, they've been nra members, we have a new political reality out there, and i think that there is a mobilization of americans like we've never seen before and that's going to include the sportsman and it's going to include the gun owners that are saying we can do better to protect our communities and to protect the second amendment. so i think politically, we're going...